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		<title>Comment on Heckler &amp; Koch: weapon of choice for Gaddafi&#8217;s son by Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.shutdownhk.org.uk/heckler-koch-weapon-of-choice-for-gaddafis-son/comment-page-1/#comment-3729</link>
		<dc:creator>Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. Unfortunately, humans will always live with violence - this is why we think flooding the world with weapons is a bad idea.  It&#039;s the same reason you wash your hands after chopping chili.  You understand that humans will always live with itchy arses, and so you attempt to mitigate the problems associated with this fact.

If there was any evidence, whatsoever, that people were using weapons to keep the peace, rather than to kill each other, then you might have the beginnings of a point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Unfortunately, humans will always live with violence &#8211; this is why we think flooding the world with weapons is a bad idea.  It&#8217;s the same reason you wash your hands after chopping chili.  You understand that humans will always live with itchy arses, and so you attempt to mitigate the problems associated with this fact.</p>
<p>If there was any evidence, whatsoever, that people were using weapons to keep the peace, rather than to kill each other, then you might have the beginnings of a point.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Heckler &amp; Koch: weapon of choice for Gaddafi&#8217;s son by Graham Bartle</title>
		<link>http://www.shutdownhk.org.uk/heckler-koch-weapon-of-choice-for-gaddafis-son/comment-page-1/#comment-2768</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Bartle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Acts of violence are going to be a part of human interaction forever. In order for us to have freedoms and protect our human rights we will have to meet the oppressive members of humanity with a equal or superior means of violence. H&amp;K does everything in their power to supply arms only to those they believe are not using them to oppress freedom. Why would you want to shut down this company?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Acts of violence are going to be a part of human interaction forever. In order for us to have freedoms and protect our human rights we will have to meet the oppressive members of humanity with a equal or superior means of violence. H&amp;K does everything in their power to supply arms only to those they believe are not using them to oppress freedom. Why would you want to shut down this company?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Anti-H&amp;K poster appears around Nottingham by Evey</title>
		<link>http://www.shutdownhk.org.uk/anti-hk-poster-appears-around-nottingham/comment-page-1/#comment-2644</link>
		<dc:creator>Evey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 15:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This company sells weapons to dictatorial regimes that use them to oppress people, and you&#039;re asking &quot;what is wrong with that?&quot; Just because it&#039;s legal, doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s right.

Asking why we don&#039;t protest about a different issue is not a valid criticism of this campaign. And in any case, you picked an example that is particularly relevant: The mining you refer to takes place in the Democratic Republic of Congo (not Uganda) and the tens of thousands of girls &amp; women who are raped there, are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.irinnews.org/InDepthMain.aspx?InDepthId=8&amp;ReportId=58979&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;raped at gunpoint&lt;/a&gt;.

So I guess there&#039;s another answer to your question &quot;what is wrong with arms trade&quot;: Guns are tools of rape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This company sells weapons to dictatorial regimes that use them to oppress people, and you&#8217;re asking &#8220;what is wrong with that?&#8221; Just because it&#8217;s legal, doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s right.</p>
<p>Asking why we don&#8217;t protest about a different issue is not a valid criticism of this campaign. And in any case, you picked an example that is particularly relevant: The mining you refer to takes place in the Democratic Republic of Congo (not Uganda) and the tens of thousands of girls &amp; women who are raped there, are <a href="http://www.irinnews.org/InDepthMain.aspx?InDepthId=8&amp;ReportId=58979" rel="nofollow">raped at gunpoint</a>.</p>
<p>So I guess there&#8217;s another answer to your question &#8220;what is wrong with arms trade&#8221;: Guns are tools of rape.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Heckler &amp; Koch: weapon of choice for Gaddafi&#8217;s son by Evey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 13:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If those jobs are highly unethical - if they facilitate murder and oppression in other countries - then yes, we do have a problem with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If those jobs are highly unethical &#8211; if they facilitate murder and oppression in other countries &#8211; then yes, we do have a problem with that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Heckler &amp; Koch: weapon of choice for Gaddafi&#8217;s son by Skektek</title>
		<link>http://www.shutdownhk.org.uk/heckler-koch-weapon-of-choice-for-gaddafis-son/comment-page-1/#comment-2640</link>
		<dc:creator>Skektek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 12:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Fact: The world is a nasty, dangerous place.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The world is all the more dangerous for having 600 million guns in it.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Fact: Guns equalize the disparities caused by the previous facts.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
When the security forces of Bahrain (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shutdownhk.org.uk/heckler-koch-armed-bahrain-regime/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;one of H&amp;K&#039;s customers&lt;/a&gt;) recently opened fire on peaceful demonstrators, it was not to &quot;equalize the disparities&quot; - it was to kill and oppress.

Your argument would require every man, woman and child to be armed with a gun, which is quite literally crazy, and would make the world a much more dangerous place.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Fact: By arguing for the banning of guns, you are stating that people don’t have the right do fight on an equal level against others who have a advantage in size, etc. over them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Fact: Putting the word &quot;fact&quot; in front of your wildly misinformed opinions does not magically transform them into the truth.

&lt;blockquote&gt;In essence, the “ban all guns” line is asserting that 100lb women have the right to fistfight 250lb rapists.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No it isn&#039;t. Guns facilitate far more rapes than they prevent. Tens of thousands of women are raped at gunpoint in conflict and post-conflict situations, such the wars in the Balkans and DR Congo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Fact: The world is a nasty, dangerous place.</p></blockquote>
<p>The world is all the more dangerous for having 600 million guns in it.</p>
<blockquote><p>Fact: Guns equalize the disparities caused by the previous facts.</p></blockquote>
<p>When the security forces of Bahrain (<a href="http://www.shutdownhk.org.uk/heckler-koch-armed-bahrain-regime/" rel="nofollow">one of H&amp;K&#8217;s customers</a>) recently opened fire on peaceful demonstrators, it was not to &#8220;equalize the disparities&#8221; &#8211; it was to kill and oppress.</p>
<p>Your argument would require every man, woman and child to be armed with a gun, which is quite literally crazy, and would make the world a much more dangerous place.</p>
<blockquote><p>Fact: By arguing for the banning of guns, you are stating that people don’t have the right do fight on an equal level against others who have a advantage in size, etc. over them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Fact: Putting the word &#8220;fact&#8221; in front of your wildly misinformed opinions does not magically transform them into the truth.</p>
<blockquote><p>In essence, the “ban all guns” line is asserting that 100lb women have the right to fistfight 250lb rapists.</p></blockquote>
<p>No it isn&#8217;t. Guns facilitate far more rapes than they prevent. Tens of thousands of women are raped at gunpoint in conflict and post-conflict situations, such the wars in the Balkans and DR Congo.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Anti-H&amp;K poster appears around Nottingham by Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 01:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly what is wrong with arms trade?  I under the verbiage used is meant to evoke negative feeling and reactions, but this is a legal business, selling their products legally. Why not protest illegal mineral mining in Uganda that is resulting in the mass rape of women.  I know, its because YOU use those material in your inocuous cell phones, and laptops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly what is wrong with arms trade?  I under the verbiage used is meant to evoke negative feeling and reactions, but this is a legal business, selling their products legally. Why not protest illegal mineral mining in Uganda that is resulting in the mass rape of women.  I know, its because YOU use those material in your inocuous cell phones, and laptops.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Heckler &amp; Koch: weapon of choice for Gaddafi&#8217;s son by Diraphe</title>
		<link>http://www.shutdownhk.org.uk/heckler-koch-weapon-of-choice-for-gaddafis-son/comment-page-1/#comment-2626</link>
		<dc:creator>Diraphe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The reason we campaign against H&amp;K is that H&amp;K is based in our town. We would like to see people everywhere campaigning against their local arms companies, including Glock, Colt and all the rest.&quot;

So you have a problem with H&amp;K providing jobs in your community?  I&#039;m sure those employed as well as the families they are feeding are thankful for those paychecks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The reason we campaign against H&amp;K is that H&amp;K is based in our town. We would like to see people everywhere campaigning against their local arms companies, including Glock, Colt and all the rest.&#8221;</p>
<p>So you have a problem with H&amp;K providing jobs in your community?  I&#8217;m sure those employed as well as the families they are feeding are thankful for those paychecks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Middle East dictatorships armed by H&amp;K by Andrew Travis</title>
		<link>http://www.shutdownhk.org.uk/middle-east-dictatorships-armed-by-hk/comment-page-1/#comment-2580</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been compiling evidence of human rights abuses across the UN,US,NATO and AL nations and regions. The current DSEi fair in London at the minute characterises the hypocracy and double standards set by the Allied nations. 

We hope, and predict, that over the next decade, the people&#039;s republic will continue to protest and march againist these superpowers, their arms dealerships and interventions, and will rise up. 

We can only wish for a new age of peace.

Thank you for your information, I will continue to use your website to help my research into corruption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been compiling evidence of human rights abuses across the UN,US,NATO and AL nations and regions. The current DSEi fair in London at the minute characterises the hypocracy and double standards set by the Allied nations. </p>
<p>We hope, and predict, that over the next decade, the people&#8217;s republic will continue to protest and march againist these superpowers, their arms dealerships and interventions, and will rise up. </p>
<p>We can only wish for a new age of peace.</p>
<p>Thank you for your information, I will continue to use your website to help my research into corruption.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Heckler &amp; Koch: weapon of choice for Gaddafi&#8217;s son by DavyJones'_Locker</title>
		<link>http://www.shutdownhk.org.uk/heckler-koch-weapon-of-choice-for-gaddafis-son/comment-page-1/#comment-2576</link>
		<dc:creator>DavyJones'_Locker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 02:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you can continue to protest guns all you want. However, when the window shatters at 3 A.M., I very much doubt a well reasoned argument will dissuade violence on the part of the intruder. That being said, I would like to assert a few facts. 
Fact: The world is a nasty, dangerous place. People still fight for many, many reasons.
Fact: Not all people are equal in size, strength, or fighting capability.
Fact: Some people use their natural advantages in size to intimidate and abuse others, particularly women.
Fact: Guns equalize the disparities caused by the previous facts.
Fact: By arguing for the banning of guns, you are stating that people don&#039;t have the right do fight on an equal level against others who have a advantage in size, etc. over them.
In essence, the &quot;ban all guns&quot; line is asserting that 100lb women have the right to fistfight 250lb rapists.
Food for thought, innit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you can continue to protest guns all you want. However, when the window shatters at 3 A.M., I very much doubt a well reasoned argument will dissuade violence on the part of the intruder. That being said, I would like to assert a few facts.<br />
Fact: The world is a nasty, dangerous place. People still fight for many, many reasons.<br />
Fact: Not all people are equal in size, strength, or fighting capability.<br />
Fact: Some people use their natural advantages in size to intimidate and abuse others, particularly women.<br />
Fact: Guns equalize the disparities caused by the previous facts.<br />
Fact: By arguing for the banning of guns, you are stating that people don&#8217;t have the right do fight on an equal level against others who have a advantage in size, etc. over them.<br />
In essence, the &#8220;ban all guns&#8221; line is asserting that 100lb women have the right to fistfight 250lb rapists.<br />
Food for thought, innit?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Heckler &amp; Koch: weapon of choice for Gaddafi&#8217;s son by Skektek</title>
		<link>http://www.shutdownhk.org.uk/heckler-koch-weapon-of-choice-for-gaddafis-son/comment-page-1/#comment-2568</link>
		<dc:creator>Skektek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 22:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You are campaigning for a world without guns – is that really what you want?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Er... Is that a trick question?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Your freedom of speech is protected by guns.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No it isn&#039;t. The biggest threat to my freedom of speech is the government, and they&#039;re the one with all the guns.

&lt;blockquote&gt;“People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

By &quot;rough men&quot; do you mean the armed forces? Like the British soldiers who tortured Baha Moussa to death? Like the guards at Abu Ghraib? When those rough men do their violence, it is not on my behalf, and it does not help me to sleep peaceably.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Humanity is not yet sufficiently evolved to not consider violence a suitable response to a conflict of interest.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If humanity is not yet sufficiently evolved, don&#039;t you think it&#039;s a bit irresponsible to arm them with hi-tech weapons systems?

&lt;blockquote&gt;...the threat of an equally violent response can, in many cases, avoid violence.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The availability of weapons can, in many cases, facilitate violence.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t like nuclear weapons, but I cannot deny that it is almost certainly thanks to their existence that the cold war remained cold…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It is almost certainly thanks to their existence that the Cold War nearly escalated to a nuclear war (cf Cuban Missile Crisis).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You are campaigning for a world without guns – is that really what you want?</p></blockquote>
<p>Er&#8230; Is that a trick question?</p>
<blockquote><p>Your freedom of speech is protected by guns.</p></blockquote>
<p>No it isn&#8217;t. The biggest threat to my freedom of speech is the government, and they&#8217;re the one with all the guns.</p>
<blockquote><p>“People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”</p></blockquote>
<p>By &#8220;rough men&#8221; do you mean the armed forces? Like the British soldiers who tortured Baha Moussa to death? Like the guards at Abu Ghraib? When those rough men do their violence, it is not on my behalf, and it does not help me to sleep peaceably.</p>
<blockquote><p>Humanity is not yet sufficiently evolved to not consider violence a suitable response to a conflict of interest.</p></blockquote>
<p>If humanity is not yet sufficiently evolved, don&#8217;t you think it&#8217;s a bit irresponsible to arm them with hi-tech weapons systems?</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;the threat of an equally violent response can, in many cases, avoid violence.</p></blockquote>
<p>The availability of weapons can, in many cases, facilitate violence.</p>
<blockquote><p>I don’t like nuclear weapons, but I cannot deny that it is almost certainly thanks to their existence that the cold war remained cold…</p></blockquote>
<p>It is almost certainly thanks to their existence that the Cold War nearly escalated to a nuclear war (cf Cuban Missile Crisis).</p>
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